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Postby nicolafanini on Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:32 pm

Hi to everyone,
During my last vacation in Greece, Athens, I met a bass player named Joeri Hommerson, he was playing into a venuein that city with a Norvegian Pop Band and was unbelievable.
I stopped after the concert to talk with him and he claimed to be a part of Jamiroquai band in 1989-1990 word tour, he talked of an incredible concert he got with J in Brazil.
Since I'm a great Jamiroqui fan since my high school days I was really emotioned to meet a part of the band...
I tried to find information about him on Internet and I found many thinks done by him in Italy, and everytime on everypage his CV claims being part of Jamiroquai.
But more interesting is that I know that Jamiroquai success happened in 1993, so I really can't understand the situation.
Were really Jamiroquai playing a world tour in 1989-1990, did they started the big success after having anyway a word tour?
Stuart Zender hasn't been the first Jamiroquai bass player?
Is there some Jamiroquai bio specialist that can help me in understanding this lack of history in my knoledge of the band?
Thank you,
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Postby lafly on Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:12 pm

Jamiroquai did't exist in 1989/1990 so I son't posibly see how there could have been a world tour.
All I can guess is that this guy is either totally bullshitting - or possibly that he met Jay back in the late 80's and did a jamming session with him or something.
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Postby djrushie123 on Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:48 am

has anyone come up wid an answer for ya question coz i wood like to no now
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Postby King Snake on Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:33 am

The first single that Jamiroquai recorded was with Brand New Heavies bass player Andrew Levy.
I don't know if Jamiroquai had another bassplayer before that.
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Postby lafly on Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:32 pm

Some say that Joeri may be the little known "Mr X" ... for those who don't know Mr X was the one who actually played bass on the Space Cowboy (album version). Zender didn't actually play bass on that track.
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I know that guy very well...

Postby c-bass on Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:27 am

Hi everybody!
I know this guy far too well. I worked with him and he was actually a good friend of mine for a while...
I just want to let you know that he's been telling everybody he played with Jamiroquai and many other musicians and that he even recorded the "Godzilla" soundrack with J., which is obviously not true.
Just words. Be careful out there!
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about the above post

Postby c-bass on Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:44 am

Hey, if anybody can prove me wrong, please do it!
If somebody else met him and spoke to him, well, join us in this forum and tell us what you think.
Regards!!!!
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Postby MrX on Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:58 pm

I see my choice of nick name suddenly seems a bit odd. But I've allso met Joeri Hommerson. I really want to belive everything he says, but after reading this I must admit, I am a bit worried. lying about beeing a part of Jamiroquai is kind of a big deal.
If anyone knows for a fact that he is a fraud, please let me know!!!
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Postby charaudeau on Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:50 pm

Some say that Joeri may be the little known "Mr X" ... for those who don't know Mr X was the one who actually played bass on the Space Cowboy (album version). Zender didn't actually play bass on that track.


That IS funny that you're name is too MrX... :)
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Postby nicolafanini on Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:45 am

MrX wrote:If anyone knows for a fact that he is a fraud, please let me know!!!


I think he is a fround, since after some voices began to spread the bass world he immediately changed his Pubblic C.V. ...

This is what I noticed, but if someone knows more, I also please to give here feedback.
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CV

Postby MrX on Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:22 am

No, he still has Jamiroquai on his CV.

CV: http://www.eurobassday.com/artisti/j_hommerson2.htm

I really don't know what to belive...
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Re: CV

Postby nicolafanini on Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:24 pm

MrX wrote:No, he still has Jamiroquai on his CV.
CV: http://www.eurobassday.com/artisti/j_hommerson2.htm
I really don't know what to belive...


Maybe he sent to them this CV...
Usually when an artist is payed by endorsing brands, events artistic director don't take too much care of this.

What is strange is that a great brand like AshDown didn't tell nothing about his CV, also if for other artists they give detailed info...
http://www.ashdownmusic.co.uk/artists/detail.asp?ID=195

What is shure is that he is great, I heard him many thime since my last post and he is a great musicians.
What I noticed is that many of the musicians (some of the most acclaimed in the world) and many people in the audience have "fun" to investigate in his past and began to notice what we are writing now here...
In the last Verona event, the one you linked above, this was one of the main chatting...

Too much voices, no one confirmation or documentation from him, and a very strange situation.

I only regret because he is really impressing and didn't need to bullshit to be considered a great musicians.

But someone also told me that in the music business putting fantasies in CV is a must...
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Postby MrX on Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:06 pm

I think putting fantasies like this on your CV is shooting your self in the ass... But hey, Nobody is writing about me anywhere..

With that said, I absolutely agree that he's a fenomenal musician, but come on... Have some dignity...

That is.....if he's lying.. Aaarrghh.. this is driving me up the walls..
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Postby nicolafanini on Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:48 pm

MrX wrote:I think putting fantasies like this on your CV is shooting your self in the ass...


I totally agree with you MrX.
I've been in the Verona event and believe me, he has been putted in a corner.
He tried approaching other musicians, but with few success.
He has never been invited to a musicians dinner, also if someone I know for sure asked if was possible to have him invited.
He hasn't been also invited to be part of jury for the contest of "Young European Bass Talent".
These are clear signal that also other people (important contacts for his career), due to his way of doing, "are shooting him in the ass" ;-)
And what about the joung musician in his band? The band is great, they sold hundreds of CDs, the music make crazy people, but they have been treated as "The band of the bulshitting bass player"...

Will be interesting if there will be an official Jamiroquai managenet communication about this, so we can all know the true.
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About this...

Postby Rufnek on Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:25 pm

I am taking lessons from this guy right now, he never said anything about being part of Jamiroquai, but he says that he was their touring bassplayer for a world tour... I really don't care about Jamiroquai so I couldn't care less, but he has appeared on EuroBassDay, been on a DvD, (2003?), and the man can play. So why the f**k would he keep on pushing the same issue now if it wasn't true? If he hadn't done it, he would probably "change" band, you know, changed band he supposedly toured with depending on which person he is talking to...
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Re: About this...

Postby nicolafanini on Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:56 pm

Rufnek wrote:...he was their touring bassplayer for a world tour...

...he has appeared on EuroBassDay, been on a DvD, (2003?), and the man can play. So why the f**k would he keep on pushing the same issue now if it wasn't true?

...changed band he supposedly toured with depending on which person he is talking to...


I agree with you, he is really a cat on the bass...

He has been also in different bass events with many greats:
NoiBassisti 2004/2005 (this event is great, many bass player playing live into an anchient italian palace!)
EuroBassDay 2003/2004/2005
European Bass Day 2005

He has just released a record with a great italian band called "Euro Groove".
But seems that everithing he done has been done mainly in Italy or as a consequnces of what he did in Italy.

Maybe someone there believed in his CV and now is pushing him, I only hope for that person/persons that his cooperation with jamiro is real...
...what a great delusion would be for them if this story is a bull***t.

This is becoming a real interesting investigation for me, is amazing to see the power of words...
...he claims to be part of our loved Jamiro and this obviously helped him, but no official documentation could be found about this cooperation.

Search "Joeri Hommerson" on Google and see what happend ;-)

Intereeeeeesting!
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Postby boanerges on Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:46 pm

nicolafanini,
Although this thread is somewhat outdated (only just saw it), I have some info for you:

A singer I know made contact with Hommerson at a wedding in Norway. Hearing him play and talking to him, it turned out that he was looking for musical associates, and that he would love to fly from Oslo, where he lived (or lives?) to our Stavanger, our city, to rehearse and record. Of course, to be given the chance to play with a bass player from Jamiroquai (his selling point, of course) -- THE bass player's band -- was exciting, and (as he himself stated) would open a lot of doors for the band.

So, he came to us, stayed with me and my family, and we started working on and recording some material. He soon outlined possible venues for us to play, given we had a few original songs, which we then had, and (note this for later:) at the rehearsals he was constantly in contact with a friend of him (a club owner called Marco) in Amsterdam that already had found some nice Dutch venues and booked a couple of gigs in a few months.

Well, he went back to Oslo, but came back to Stavanger to rehearse and record. Of course, we had to know for sure that the European tour was settled, so we asked him to bring the contracts. He didn't, but (note this for later 2:) he called his wife to make sure that all contracts were faxed from the Dutch venues. His wife confirmed this via phone as we sat right next to him at a rehearsal.

Ok. Promising. We had a good demo of our own material, a great band, and we had booked a gig at one of the major Norwegian jazzfestival, MaiJazz, pushing the bass player from Jamiroquai as a selling point. We got some press because of this, and basically were set to do our first gig as a band at a club scene at this festival. Everybody were excited. We had been working for months, and become great friends as well!

For this gig, we arranged for Mr. Hommerson to sleep at a hotel nearby the club; a little bit of luxury after all the struggle -- the plane trips back and forth between Oslo and Stavanger. And in the days prior to the MaiJazz gig, Bass Player Magazine called Mr. Hommerson telling him that they were going to be at the gig, interviewing him about a new bass that he was endorsing, and also about his new and exciting band and the forthcoming European tour.

We were all very excited, an European tour coming up, the MaiJazz gig, and now Bass Player Magazine.

Well, the day of the MaiJazz gig came, and he was constantly on the phone with Bass Player Magazine, telling their journalist where we were, which restaurant we were going to eat at, etc., so that the journalist could meet us there. But the journalist never seemed to make it, always having an excuse. Nevermind, he was going to meet up after the gig for a few beers anyway.

The gig went ok, not too much people and the music a bit on the pop side of a jazz festival, and in the breaks, Mr. Hommerson were constantly on the phone with the BP journalist, which had been there during the gig, but had met a girl, so he had to meet us later. After the gig, the journalist had dissapeared with this girl, according to Mr. Hommerson, but he would meet us tomorrow.

Needless to say, by now we knew that something was seriously wrong, and the day after, we called him for a meeting at the hotel. He showed up (after we locked ourselves into his room -- he didn't show up and wouldn't respond to phonecalls or door bangs), and we confronted him directly with our suspicions; that he was never associated with Jamiroquai, that he hadn't booked anything in Europe, and that there were no journalists from BP at the gig. He denied, called us liars, and went back up to his room.

We then called his wife to hear from her first hand that she had been confirming the fax with contracts for the European gigs. She didn't have a clue as to what we were talking about, and told us that she had never heard of any gigs. She hadn't even been talking to him about this or anything related to this project over the phone.

The following days were pretty ugly. A blurry mix of phonecalls and mails revealed (have them all stored) that he actually never had been talking to the Dutch club owner (Marco), thus there were never any gigs in Europe, and there were no BP journalists in town. Prompted with the question why he had been talking to them on the phone while we were there, he never answered.

A note about the caliber of this dude: Our singer asked him if he really, really could be honest about his role in Jamiroquai. He gave 5 or 6 different answers, finally topping it off by saying: "If I was the ex bass player of Jamiroquai, do you really think I would be here playing with YOU guys?"

So that's the end of that story.

As for a piece of advice (and this is my opinion, and the opinion of the rest of the band): This guy is disturbed, and I don't think it is right to approach him to try and make him realize he's sick. Just avoid him, and warn people around you that he may come in contact with. The fact that he spent time in my house with me and my daughter gives me the chills, even today.

How could we believe all this? Well, we all trust each other, and I'd never met anybody as sick as him before, faking conversations and telling me lies over and over again to my face. He was a nice guy, loved his family (wife and stepchidren), and had seemingly healthy values. So why not? You'll never know until you meet a patological liar, or even psycopath, for the first time. Therefore: Avoid.

PS: He even told us that one of his closest neighbours were Steve Lukather, guitar player from TOTO. Luke loved Norway so much that he had built a big house with a studio nearby, and after the tour we planned, we were going to spend some time there, hanging out with the CATS. Didn't fall for that one, though.

PS2: Almost forgot, he told us (when we asked him why his name never appears on any albums etc) that names like Nick Fyffe (and Steve Lukather, for that matter) is a collective name for several bassist. That's why his name would never be on any list, other than that of Nick Fyffe (if my spelling is correct). :D
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Postby BEGGERZ on Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:14 pm

So was this guy telling the truth or not? :?
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Postby FunkEducation on Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:34 pm

lafly wrote:Jamiroquai did't exist in 1989/1990 so I son't posibly see how there could have been a world tour.
All I can guess is that this guy is either totally bullshitting - or possibly that he met Jay back in the late 80's and did a jamming session with him or something.


yes they did exist in 1989-1990.... also, the original demo of WYGL was recorded in 1989 as far as i know... maybe i'm wrong... i don't know nothing about jamiroquai...

check this out:

http://www.jamirotalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16426
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Postby KillingHeidi on Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:54 am

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Postby c-bass on Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:26 pm

boanerges wrote:nicolafanini,
Although this thread is somewhat outdated (only just saw it), I have some info for you:.........



THANK YOU boanerges for finally coming out with the truth.
I always knew this, and tried to warn everybody but apparently when people don't want to listen.......
As I said in my previous posts, I was veeeeeery close to this guy for more that 2 years, until I found out that he had a family of his own and that every single thing he said was pretty much a lie, if you know what I mean.
I too agree that he's a very disturbed guy and what concerned me the most were those sudden changes in behaviour he had, meaning that one moment he would be the closest friend, then if you just made the slightest hint that you were questioning what he just said he would explode in sudden anger, accusing you for no reason whatsoever of being a liar, unprofessional and that he couldn't trust you at all.
One day he would even claim that he was just about to go broke because his ex-girlfriend :roll: wanted his money and the house :roll: , that he was selling the car, the basses and all the gear and for this reason I had to please help him find gigs because he needed the money.
Next thing you know, he calls me a couple of days later saying he just bought a new PC that cost about 2.000 bucks and a portable dvd player....
And believe me, things like that happened very often.
When finally put to the test because he was being asked to produce the contracts or at least some pictures of the gigs and the people he claimed he'd been playing with, he came out empty-handed, and I decided that was the last time I ever spoke to him.
The only reason why I couldn't realise earlier just how sick he is was that we live in different countries and we could talk face to face only a few days a year. Mostly we corresponded for work via e-mail, and, believe me, that makes a big difference.
This is the truth and I always tried to prevent other people from getting hurt or damaged by this guy.
So please, beware.
The guy is sick.
And with this I think I can finally consider the case closed.
If people believe it, good.
If they don't, it's their problem.
Thanks for listening, anyway.
Best regards,
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Postby snolan on Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:26 pm

the proof that jami existed in 89 is poor

the guy is obviously a bullshitter

he may be Mr X but any bass player could have been

and there was no jami tour in 89/90 the first concerts were in 93 unless im mistaken and there were some in 92 but im prety sure the first were in 93
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Postby Knjaz Milos on Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:43 pm

snolan wrote:the proof that jami existed in 89 is poor


Quoting a Club Citta '93 interview:

"I got interested in music when I was 16..."

Jay was born in the final few days of 1969. That means that he recorded the "Natural Energy" acetate in the 86-89 period. Jamiro have certainly formed long before 1992. Hell, before 1992/3, the Acid Jazz scene of W London was practially invisible to outsiders.
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Postby Jameerica on Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:51 pm

Knjaz Milos wrote:
Jay was born in the final few days of 1969. That means that he recorded the "Natural Energy" acetate in the 86-89 period. Jamiro have certainly formed long before 1992. Hell, before 1992/3, the Acid Jazz scene of W London was practially invisible to outsiders.

true.and that's another reason why this can't be true that they did a world tour in '89.cuz no one knew of them and no one would offer to sponsor them for such a big thing as a WORLD TOUR. :roll: for this guy,joeri or whatever,from what i read here my only conclusion is-he's a pathological liar.i bet he too would love to believe what he says.you can't blame him....he's probably started LIVING in that identity he created....maybe even his name is a lie.who knows?it's all very unbelievable,what he says-per example,nick fyffe is a collective name for bass-players.cuz we've seen pictures of the guy,we've been confirmed that he played in jamiroquai,some guys met him,we've seen him on videos performing...not a different guy every time-but the same one.and even if this was so,i bet we'd never see him there.i don't question the fact that he may be a great bass player but i bet that he'd be a lot more successful if he was NORMAL and if he made his own band and not lie about being in bands that are world famous.it's just too obvious.
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Postby Desmodus on Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:36 pm

I just remember the first line up of IROQUAI TRIBE......and there was not that saxon man....so........he was not in the first demo.....and he was not in the first album...............so? BULLSHIT.
I just take into account the first album....and the line up has not got that ducth name.....so.....sorry.... :lol: :lol: FAME IS FOR FEW PEOPLE!!! hahaha.
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